The Power of Intention: Dowsing with Joan Reid

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Charisse Sisou (00:00)
Ready to have a deeper conversation about body and soul, sacred leadership, and our collective evolution? Welcome to the Wise Body, Ancient Soul podcast with me, your host, Charisse Sisou.

Charisse Sisou (00:00)
All right, we are live. I am so excited to introduce Joan Reid, who is an artist, a teacher, and an energy worker. She taught art and computers in high school as well as college for over 45 years, retiring from teaching in public schools.

Joan Reid (00:05)
excited to introduce…

retiring from teaching in public schools.

Charisse Sisou (00:24)
She is still teaching and offering classes and workshops in her studio in the Shirt Factory in Glens Falls, New York. 30 years ago, Joan took a class in basic dowsing at the American Society of Dowsers annual convention. And since then, she’s been an instructor and director of ASD’s basic school and foundation course at our annual conventions. She was awarded the Teacher of the Year Award.

Joan Reid (00:28)
your studio in the sugar factory in Columbus, N .W.

is a coach, a class in music, and the American Society of Music.

It’s important to teach.

Charisse Sisou (00:53)
color me not surprised, and is a lifetime member of the American Society of Dowsers. Joan loves to help people become aware of their inner abilities, to trust their intuition, and to learn about energy work. As a clinical hypnotherapist, Reiki master and teacher, Hawaiian energetics practitioner and dowser, she also maintains an office treating clients in those areas.

Joan Reid (00:54)
Peace.

Charisse Sisou (01:19)
Joan hosts and facilitates meditation gatherings at her studio, number 311 -311 in the Shirt Factory, and teaches classes in meditation, Hawaiian energetics, Reiki, dowsing, listening and trusting the messages you get. and art. Please welcome Joan Reid.

Joan Reid (01:27)
I think it’s awesome.

Thank you.

Charisse Sisou (01:41)
Thank you. I’m so delighted to have you. You bring together so many things that I have such a deep interest in. So, well, let’s take a trip down memory lane. Take us back to that first class. What sparked you to go to the con? What sparked you to try dowsing in the first place?

Joan Reid (02:06)
Well, long time ago, probably more than 40 years ago, I was teaching art in public school, 900 kids a week, building a house, putting a husband through college, and my body fell apart. And I took a medical leave from teaching in public school, and then started taking meditation classes, all kinds of alternative.

alternative healing classes. I really wanted to be a doctor originally because like my father, but they didn’t let females, but they didn’t encourage females back then. So I started taking things in meditation, biofeedback. There was a parapsychology course at the local college. I took that and found out I could do remote viewing. My meditation teacher,

became a really good friend of mine and she used to go to the dowsing convention and she would teach. Her name was Loretta Grabowski. She’s not alive on this plane anymore. But we became really good friends and started learning all kinds of things together. Reiki, I mean, she would teach Huna and have a meditation class. So I started using Huna, which is a positive way of living and thinking that the Hawaiians.

just naturally do because it’s part of their culture. So, Huna, I took classes 14 years in Huna because I just loved being with the people that had like minds and wanted to meditate and wanted to be positive and got out of a victim mode and you know all the type of things that got my attention as I was healing myself. So, Loretta took me to the Dowsing Convention.

where she encouraged me to go. I took the basic school and it was like stuff I already felt like I knew, but now I started having labels and a system. And the teachers were amazing. They were people that were, a lot of them were water well dowsers at the time. And this is around ’93 or four. And then it got my interest so much that,

I started using it for all kinds of things, just playing with it, playing with dowsing, my pendulum, the L -rods, body dowsing, device -less dowsing. And I just kept going. They asked me to help teach it the second year. Lee Cachadorian, an amazing dowser, she asked me if I would help teach. Bob Surd, I mean, I was with some of the older, the elders,

amazing people with wisdom about energy and the ability to trust their intuition or their gut feelings or whatever you want to label it. And I started realizing how much the labels really didn’t matter. And I took all kinds of things, shamanic classes, Reiki, Hawaiian energetics. I took so many different things. I became a clinical hypnotherapist because I was training my body to work again. And

I healed myself. So then I started helping other people because I thought, you know, people would say, how’d you do that? And I would show them what I did. I started teaching classes, meditation groups.

So as I started teaching at the convention, it went into all different areas of my life. And I’ve been invited to different states to teach dowsing. I’ve actually gotten very into the Hawaiian energetics,

So I go to Hawaii, I have been 16 times. And I just love the people that I meet, the people that know about energy and trust what they get because they practice and they believe. And then every year they keep asking me to come back. So I love it. And I am so happy to help the people learn about themselves.

Charisse Sisou (06:23)
That’s great. That’s great. I love it. Well, and I love how just almost organic and easy it had. I could just imagine that with all of your teaching skills that you bring to the table, that it just was such a natural fit. Of course, of course they would want to.

Joan Reid (06:40)
Well, I am a teacher and I was in public school for a long time and I feel like that helped me when it comes to helping people learn where to start, because that’s the biggest thing. And then where to go from there and where to go from there. And a lot of it is learning how to know what your intention is, which is getting to know yourself.

So a lot of the things I do kind of dovetail into each other.

Charisse Sisou (07:07)
Mm.

Right, right, absolutely. Yeah, this is something that’s come up in some of the other conversations, just that we can actually, you know, if we are kind of coming in, like I like to think of it as like energetic clutter or static, it’ll impact the answers that we’re getting. But if you come in clear with that clear intent, then you get that clear answer. I love that.

Joan Reid (07:38)
And in the foundation class in the basic school of the American Society of Dowsers, we focus on making sure you have the intent. Well, first of all, making sure that you’re centered and that you are ready to do what you want to do and have the intention of knowing what you want to do. And when you get centered like that, you have amazing abilities. Your energy just flows so much more.

Charisse Sisou (07:42)
Yeah.

Joan Reid (08:06)
evenly and clearly and I know that Lee Barnes showed you that chart of the consciousness and what the dowsers and the meditators how their different levels of consciousness are activated depending on what you’re doing and dowsers seem to have a lot more access to the different levels of consciousness at the same time and that’s scientific so that I love the science part of it that proves it I’m glad science is catching up.

Charisse Sisou (08:12)
Yes.

Mm -hmm.

if you could tell me more about, you know, your perception of or your understanding of where do the answers come from?

Joan Reid (08:41)
I believe we are energy beings. We’re energy. Energy is everywhere. It never stops. And the energy, our energy It’s unlimited. So another thing we do in the basic school, in the foundation class, is show people their own energy systems. Like we have the physical energy. We have the etheric energy. We have the astral energy.

You have the energy that goes out into your community. You have the energy that goes out past that into the state, the world, and then out into the universe. There is no end to your energy. So thoughts are energy. Words are energy. Everything is energy. So when we ask the question in the right way, we get the answer that goes along with it. So asking the right question.

is so important and that goes along with the intention so that you can direct it. It’s sort of like, you know, if you have a computer and you don’t ask it what you really need or want, it won’t come back to you. It doesn’t guess. So when we learn to say what we really mean and what’s our truth, we can get the answers.

Charisse Sisou (09:48)
Mm -hmm.

Joan Reid (09:58)
Did I answer your question? OK. All right.

Charisse Sisou (09:58)
Well, and I can, you did, you did. And it just, it put me in mind of, you know, that asking those questions because I can, I can already hear it, you know, well, how do I know if I’m asking the right questions? And so, yeah, how would you answer that question?

Joan Reid (10:18)
Well, we teach the beginners, and I’m finding out the beginners aren’t as much beginners now as they used to be 10 years ago or 20 years ago. People are learning a lot more about all of this stuff, thank goodness. But when you learn to put a question in the right way, you start feeling it. It’s like an energy experience.

When you ask a question that isn’t clear, your dowsing won’t be as clear. You’ll get a no in the beginning when you’re trying to center yourself Most dowsers have some way of centering before they dowse. And one of the ways that we encourage people at least to start with until they figure out they like it or they want to do their own words, it’s can I, may I, should I?

And that is, can I dowse right now? Sometimes it’s, we’re not in the right place. We haven’t had enough sleep. Maybe we’re not, we’re hungry or,

sometimes the person dowsing is tired, is dehydrated, needs some kind of fuel, food. And you have to make sure that before you dowse that you’re in the right place. So that’s part of the can I, may I, should I. Part of it is kind of a permission thing. Is it appropriate?

for me to dowse right now. You want to make sure that everything is, as the Hawaiians call it, pono, in harmony, in unity, or you know that you want to make sure that there’s nothing getting in the way of getting the true answer, So when I’ve asked questions, and they’re kind of a compounded question, you don’t get

the right answer that they don’t know how to… When I say they, I’m talking about all the energies around me. And they can have labels, they can be angels, so spirit guides, God, universal energy. Again, labels are only labels. It’s the energy around us, our helpers. I call them my tribe. I have a tribe of helpers. And it’s all…

Charisse Sisou (12:29)
Mm.

Joan Reid (12:32)
connected to me. It’s all my energy connecting to everybody else’s energy, including yours, even though we’re a distance apart. I can feel your energy. I can see your aura. I can, you know, your energy is beautiful. So, I distracted myself. What was the question? I just got all the questions, the they.

Charisse Sisou (12:54)
We were talking about the they. Please tell me more about my aura. No, I’m just kidding. I call them my wisdom council. Same, because some are ancestors, some are guardian angels, some are, but it’s like you say, the labels really are, they end up becoming irrelevant because even as I’ve followed that thread of like, wait, my guardian angel is also.

Joan Reid (13:03)
Yes. Yes.

Yes.

Charisse Sisou (13:22)
I mean, it’s like a whole story in and of itself. Yeah.

Joan Reid (13:26)
Well, if you think of everything as energy, it’s all like, you know, intermingled. Just like our cell memory. People and the scientists know about cell memory. I mean, it’s a lot, it’s a combination of my father, my mother, my grandmother, my grandfather, you know, their great grandparents.

Who knows exactly which teeny little particle is something to label? It’s all together. And when people talk about the Akashic records, it has to do with the energy of all time. And as you know, man made time, the label time. And we are multi -dimensional beings. We can be in all time.

Charisse Sisou (14:12)
Mm.

Right. Right.

Joan Reid (14:22)
And that’s not really part of the dowsing thing right now, but I’ll let you continue asking questions.

Charisse Sisou (14:28)
I love that. I love, well, it’s, it’s kind of one of those, you know, as our brain is wrapping around that, but that’s, that’s exactly it. But I think to your point, it does dovetail in with the dowsing because, you know, even when we’re tapping that, that wisdom, that intelligence, whatever our name for it is, it does transcend time. It really can. At the same time as doing you timely answers. Yeah.

Joan Reid (14:54)
Mm -hmm. Well, that’s why you can distance. That’s why you can distance dowse, map dowsing, remote viewing, finding missing people, you know, all the different things that some people kind of roll their eyes at. They’re real. People can do that as long as they don’t get in their own way. And one of the things back to the basic foundation class, one of the things I love doing is I have

Charisse Sisou (14:59)
I’m sorry.

Joan Reid (15:23)
people that help me that are teachers also, like Leroy Bull and Tick Goudreau and Richard Roy. And we’ve set up a way of, okay, Leroy has a specialty, Richard has a specialty, I have a specialty and Tick has a specialty. And so we take turns talking about the specialty or the things that we use dowsing the most for. And we throw out little tidbits like I just did with you.

And then that gets these people that come as students to start thinking, I love to help people think. And then when they have a little piece of whatever that they really want to know more about, then they can go to the convention and listen to somebody else talk about just this a little bit more. Or they can do research when they get home and find out more about whatever it is that they heard. So that’s what I like to do.

Charisse Sisou (16:13)
sure.

Joan Reid (16:22)
You

Charisse Sisou (16:23)
I love it. Tell me more about the different areas that each, so you listed off of yourself, the three other instructors of the Dowsing Foundations course. What are those specialization areas?

Joan Reid (16:41)
Well, I just happen to have a book that we worked on that we hand out to the people who come to the class. And it has, first of all, we talk about the tools you can use, whether it’s a Y -Rod, L -Rod, Pendulum, Bobber. And we show people how to get their responses for yes and no. And we make sure that they practice so that they start getting, they know that they can get a yes.

they can get a no and that they can be consistent. So you have a pendulum, Charisse? So, well, let me just use this one because you can see it better.

Charisse Sisou (17:20)
I do, of course.

Wowzers!

Joan Reid (17:28)
This is a big one. Wow.

Charisse Sisou (17:30)
Isn’t that, is it like the Isis one or something like that or? Yeah. Okay. Cool.

Joan Reid (17:32)
Yeah, it is. It’s an Isis one. But when you figure out, like when I ask, show me my yes, mine goes like my head goes. It goes back and forth like this. And I always say thank you. And then because I’m thanking myself and all my tribe. And then I say, please show me my no. And then it starts going sideways. And that’s like my head goes like this.

Charisse Sisou (17:44)
Mmm.

Joan Reid (18:00)
And I know a lot of people use circles or back and forth, but there’s no one way. And I want to say this to you. If somebody says, this is the only way to do this, think in your head, no, it’s not. Because you find what’s right for you. And that’s what we encourage in the basic school and in the foundation class. We help people learn how to get their yes and no, whether they’re using a pendulum or the L rods.

or the bobber, or whatever they’re using. And then we also talk about device -less dowsing. And we talk about map dowsing. And I made charts that talk about different modalities in different things. Like I have a blank chart, and we show people how to make their own charts for whatever it is that they want to do. And when I have a client that comes to me in my office,

Sometimes when they say, I don’t know. I know you do a lot of things. And what am I? I just need help or whatever. I will dowse. And I made a chart for myself that has modalities on it like, they need essential oils, or they need a Reiki treatment, or they need hypnotherapy, or they need a massage, or they need to learn how to meditate. I have this whole thing on this chart. And I dowse to see which one on the chart is for their

Charisse Sisou (19:04)
Mm.

Joan Reid (19:25)
highest good or for their benefit. So, I like to use beneficial and non -beneficial. I don’t like to use good and bad because as you know, a lot of times something that seems bad to somebody else, we really needed to learn a lesson. So it was beneficial for us. So we do a lot of talking about ways you can use dowsing. I have a chart here for essential oils. I have charts.

in my book that you can find out what’s the next thing you need to do for your house. I mean, we have so many projects, probably if you’re a house homeowner, the roof, the basement, you know, I need to paint, whatever it is. So you can’t do everything. And you don’t want to be overwhelmed. So take your pendulum and dowse, what’s the next thing to do for my house? And it points to the next thing.

And then you learn to trust that. And then you can, okay, I got this part done. Now what’s the next thing? You know, because life can be overwhelming if you let it.

Charisse Sisou (20:33)
Yeah.

Absolutely. Well, I thank you for introducing the charts because I think this is such a great perspective in terms of there are so many ways to use dowsing in decision making and making these choices. I love the use of the charts. I know in my own attendance at the conference, I’ve seen people use it for feng shui or to

Joan Reid (21:04)
Yes.

Charisse Sisou (21:04)
find energy directions and ley lines. There’s so many ways to apply it in our daily life as well as for practitioners in their practice with their clients. It’s really cool. So thank you for sharing that some of the ways that you use dowsing. Tell me about…

Joan Reid (21:07)
Mm -hmm.

Thank you.

Mm -hmm.

Charisse Sisou (21:26)
Okay, how does, because I know you’re, you’ve talked about the Hawaiian energetics. How does that kind of play with the dowsing or where does it intersect or tell me more about that?

Joan Reid (21:39)
I have learned through the Hawaiians how to change my energy into other qualities and volumes of other qualities, such as fire, water, earth, and air. And mana, which is like Reiki energy.

When I learned to dowse, device -less dowsing, I became more and more aware, as you will, as everybody will, when they dowse a lot, they get messages in their body and they start realizing they don’t need the tools. We all like to use the tools because we’re visual beings and sometimes we don’t believe ourself when we get a gut feeling or an intuitive whatever and we have to…

We have to use these stick things to prove it to ourselves. I mean, these are wonderful and I still use them. But what we’re doing actually is learning to trust ourself in the messages that we get. So as you’re doing that, you can sometimes feel things in different places of your body. And you can do device -less dowsing. And when you have an intent, you start

feeling answers in your body when you use this a lot, even before you even pick up a pendulum or L rods. Now I have a son that when he was 12, he was with some dowsers, Ted Kaufman, he’s one of the elders, not with us anymore. Ted Kaufman, Bruce Irwin, another amazing dowser who is still alive.

Charisse Sisou (23:26)
Mm.

Joan Reid (23:26)
We all would get together in Ted’s farm. he wanted to move an underground stream. So all of these wonderful dowsers, the elders, were using their rods. They’re using a rebar, they’re tapping, they’re doing different things. And then they dowsed and the stream moved. Well, my son,

this little 12 year old said, you don’t need to do all that. And they said, what do you mean? He said, just, you know, feel it and use your mind. Well, he gets messages on the back of his neck. He says the hair feels different when he gets a yes. So he at a young age already realized.

when he was using the tools he got a message in his physical body, in his energetic body really, because remember we’re all energy and our energy will pick up and show us so that we can believe ourselves or we can start paying attention to messages we get in our physical body. So let’s see, when I do…

Charisse Sisou (24:25)
Mm -hmm.

Joan Reid (24:45)
When I have somebody on my table to do a treatment, I can…

sort of body dowse where to go first or what will help affect this or that because I can bring out my pendulum and say okay they have the hip pain and is the hip pain from the hip and it can say yes and if it says no I can find out where the referred pain is coming from. So sometimes I don’t have to use this because

Charisse Sisou (24:53)
Mm -hmm.

Joan Reid (25:18)
you know, I’m doing energy enough, I can sometimes just feel it and know it and my eyes go there. Like some of the dowsers that you’ve interviewed that go, like Bill Getz, amazing dowser for wells, over a thousand wells. I apprenticed with him and he can go out and look in a field and feel it and go, okay, that’s where you go down. That’s where you go drill.

But the people want to see him do this. You know? But he has picked up the energy. Well, it’s kind of, it’s like that when you do treatments. It’s like that when you do Hawaiian energetics. And then when you have the intent that, this person has inflammation, so I need to cool it. I can change my energy for cooling and go to the inflammation and help cool it energetically.

Does that make this making sense?

Charisse Sisou (26:18)
you’re speaking my language. It’s making so much sense. Well, and I’m literally feeling what you’re describing. As I’m listening to you, I’m just astounded. Like we are just, we’re just amazing beings. So you’re not the first dowser to say, and I actually, you know, my journey with dowsing is, it was,

Joan Reid (26:35)
just amazing. Yeah we are. We are.

Charisse Sisou (26:45)
I guess what you would call a body dowser or a deviceless dowser. Some people don’t call that dowsing at all. They’re like, if there’s no instrument, it’s not dowsing, right? But however you call it, I always got those messages in my body first and then then learned how to use the pendulum. What I’ve found for myself is each feeds into the other so that the, you know, like I’ve become even more sensitive.

Joan Reid (27:01)
Yeah.

Mm -hmm.

Yes.

Charisse Sisou (27:14)
or really clear in terms of the messages that I’m getting in the body. And even when I’m holding a pendulum, I can feel it before I even see it. It’s like, yeah, it’s already changed to my no, or it’s already changed to a yes or what have you. Like, I can feel it shift before I even see it. But.

Joan Reid (27:22)
Mm -hmm.

Well, people used to live more like that, trusting the feelings or the knowings that they had in our industrial revolution and the technology and all the stuff that gets in our way. And even the way the school systems are set up. As a teacher, I had kids that would be, little kids would be so aware of energy when they were in elementary school. I started off for the first,

like 10 years teaching in elementary school. And then I got to junior high, high school and college and high school. But you know, anyway, so the little kids would come in and they would talk to me about the colors around people. Or there was a little girl who was a little bit afraid of the people that were standing around her. Nobody else could see them. So she was a little afraid of all that. Students started coming to me because they somehow knew I would go, that’s pretty cool.

Some people call those spirits or ghosts or, you know, I had parents back then call me and say, stop encouraging my kid. You know, it’s like, what do you mean? This is how people come into the planet. And then our school kind of makes them do this so we don’t pay attention to this.

but I learned to be in the system and little by little give the kids little seeds and then they would, I have some of my former students come to my classes, want to learn Reiki, they come to meditation. You know, I love it when they do that. But I was called into the principal’s office for doing voodoo in the art room once and I had to really talk myself out of that one.

Charisse Sisou (28:53)
I’m sure.

my goodness. Wow. Well, thank goodness for people like you in the, I know I kind of want to hear that story, but thank goodness for teachers like you because, yeah, I, I, I often find myself thinking about this, how it, we’re,

Joan Reid (29:18)
That’s a different story I’ll tell you at the convention.

like you making this. Yeah, I often find myself thinking about this how…

Charisse Sisou (29:39)
That system was designed to kind of hide our own power from ourselves in a way. or conversely, another way to think about it is, when we don’t, when people don’t know how powerful they are, they’re, they’re easier to influence and control, I guess. But now that got dark quickly. Anyway, tell me about.

Joan Reid (29:40)
system.

of hide our own power from ourselves in a way.

Or conversely, another way to think about it is when people don’t know how powerful they are, they’re…

I guess that get there quickly. Anyway. Yeah, we could go in a couple places, but I’m not going to do that right now.

Charisse Sisou (30:07)
Right, exactly. The bottom line is like, we know so much. You are speaking my language because we know so much more than we think we do. We have this capacity beyond, you know, what we’ve been told that we have this capacity to do or taught, you know, or programmed or however you want to put it.

Joan Reid (30:27)
about dowsing and how I got into it. When I went to the first dowsing convention and I realized that they were speaking my language, that’s how I got hooked. And I learned to call it dowsing because I didn’t know it was called dowsing. As a little kid, as a five -year -old, I would know things.

and sense things and I lost a lot of friends because I would call it clunking because I thought my head went inside of their head and I knew what they were thinking or clunk our heads kind of our skulls hit together. I had this term that I called clunking. I had to shut that off because I would get in trouble with my mother a couple times when I knew things I wasn’t supposed to know. So people…

All people have these abilities and we do come into the planet with these abilities.

But if I told kids, I can’t talk about this during school, but if you want to stay after, I’ll be here. So after school, many times kids would come like we would practice dowsing after school or.

Charisse Sisou (31:24)
Sure.

Joan Reid (31:37)
you know, talk about crystals or auras or things like that.

Charisse Sisou (31:42)
coolest teacher ever.

Joan Reid (31:45)
Hahaha!

Charisse Sisou (31:48)
That’s really awesome.

Joan Reid (31:50)
They have a special belief in one of the local churches around here. And they don’t like me talking about things like this, dowsing and reiki. And when I’ve, and one of them, an amazing man was having some health problems. And I said, I’d be glad to give you a treatment and help do what I can to help you.

told me, well, I go to church. And I thought, to me, that didn’t, it had nothing to do with it. But in his mind, that’s how he believes. So I didn’t press it. I offer, I help people, but I don’t want to make them if they have a different kind of belief, because it won’t work.

Charisse Sisou (32:32)
Mm -hmm, of course, of course. Yeah.

Absolutely. No, totally. Totally. You know, in a way, like it works out perfectly because, you know, yeah, like it wouldn’t work. And it kind of goes back to that, you know, probably had I dowsed on it before I went in there, I might have gotten a little indication like, might you? I’m not sure. It may not be appropriate here.

Joan Reid (32:51)
Ha ha!

Charisse Sisou (33:09)
You know what I mean? It kind of circles back to that kind of question. Like, can I, might I, is it appropriate at this time? You know, am I the person to do it? Blah, blah, blah. All those questions that you can ask. Right. To just clarify. Yeah, absolutely. Really interesting. Well, I wish I had had a teacher like you. I like to joke. When I was little, my friend and I, I mean, it was…

Joan Reid (33:11)
Yes.

Mm -hmm.

Right. Yep. Can I, may I, should I?

Hahaha!

Charisse Sisou (33:36)
Well, we joke now that we kind of created our own mystery school because we didn’t have anyone to talk to about it. We would just, but we were playing with pendulums. We were playing with, you know, like the, like visualizing, like just kind of some of the stuff that you were talking about, like, yeah, crystals, you know, like we were just kind of self -taught and this was, you know, before I’m going to date myself, but obviously before the age of the internet. Now, this is a part of what’s so amazing about this age, right? Is not only.

Joan Reid (33:54)
Yeah.

Mm -hmm.

Charisse Sisou (34:05)
the energies rising and there’s so many people awakening to their own skill sets, intuition, gifts, medicine, whatever you want to call it. But then you add to that this, you know, for better or for worse, this highway of information, you know, it’s really cool. So just the fact that you were able to offer that, you know, kind of before people could just Google on YouTube, a video on, right?

Joan Reid (34:25)
Mm -hmm.

It was before we

I was able to still be with kids and I know that I was supposed to be back in the school system after I healed myself to help some of the kids know about their own abilities and not be afraid of what they already knew. It’s remembering really. We’re all remembering what’s natural to us.

Charisse Sisou (34:43)
Mmm.

Yeah.

Mmm. Excellent.

So what’s next?

Joan Reid (34:59)
What’s next?

Charisse Sisou (35:00)
Yeah, what’s next? Well, what’s next for you?

Joan Reid (35:04)
Well, I’ve been asked to more and more to help people like clear their house. You know, somebody’s husband died there and now that kids are afraid to go by a certain place and I went in and helped clear it and help the person continue on their journey. And he didn’t, he was afraid to leave. I mean, there’s all kinds of emotional things going on there.

So that’s where I think some of my therapy background and my hypnosis background and different things kind of go together. So I’m feeling like some of that is, you know, besides people coming to my house and me, I mean, this is my house, my office here. I also have a studio where I do groups, but I’ve been asked to do things in more of this kind of thing.

Charisse Sisou (35:44)
Mm.

Joan Reid (36:02)
And I feel like globally people are opening up. I’ve been asked to go to different states to teach things. So I think we’re all kind of networking differently now that we have this social media. And hopefully it’ll continue in the good way to help us. But I also like to do the in -person things. Like I’m so excited about the convention to see people in person. And yes, we’re all connected energetically and things like that. But.

To be right there, it’s a lot stronger and it recharges batteries.

build labyrinths. I have a labyrinth here at my home and my labyrinth, the outer row has mostly red plants and then the next row is orange and then the next row is yellow and then there’s green, which are all herbs. So as you’re walking it, you can, you know, smell and, and then, then there’s blue and violet and pink. And in the very center is white. And I have a Buddha there. And every time I travel, cause I’ve,

traveled and studied spiritual beliefs like in Bali and Peru and in Scotland and Hawaii and different places. I bring, you know, first I ask if there’s anything that wants to come back with me and be in my labyrinth and I get a stone or a shell or a stick or something. So along the path in my labyrinth, I have things from around the world. So when I do the walking meditation, I feel like connecting and

helping send out love and peace and harmony. And I love to help people learn how to build their own labyrinth. So that’s another thing. I’m busy for being retired. I’m so glad I’m retired.

Charisse Sisou (37:47)
Very cool. So like living. Retired. Yeah. So it’s like a living labyrinth. And I just, I feel that as soon as you said it, it’s like that through that, you know, quantum entanglement, through that connection with those places you are sending that energy out. What a, what a really beautiful and also like tangible way to do that. Really cool.

Joan Reid (38:06)
Mm -hmm.

Charisse Sisou (38:16)
Really, really cool. my goodness.

Joan Reid (38:18)
Yeah.

Charisse Sisou (38:20)
Anything else? Yeah, for someone who’s considering taking the Dowsing Foundations course, is there anything else that you’d want them to know about that class that we haven’t talked about yet in this conversation?

Joan Reid (38:34)
I talked about how we teach the tools, we teach how to use them, we teach things that you can do with dowsing. I mean, we have lists of things, including just playing with it in the beginning to pick out the kind of clothes or the best way to get.

from a point here to drive to here. It might not be the place or the way that you think. And many times people will dowse and say, I took a little bit longer way because my dowsing said to. And then they found out there was an accident that they avoided because they went the other way. We tell stories about our dowsing experiences, the people that dowse for wells, which I’ve done a few. But.

Charisse Sisou (39:13)
Mm.

Joan Reid (39:26)
You know, like I said, I apprenticed with Bill Goetz, and he’s amazing. And Leroy Bull is amazing. I mean, we have a lot of amazing water dowsers. I do a lot with healing with dowsing and teach people how they can find places in their body where they’re out of balance. We talk about, are you centered in your energy field? Or is…

or you’re like off center and how to get your energy back in center, whether you’re dowsing or using your hands. Use your hands as a dowsing tool. We show device -less dowsing. We show map dowsing. It’s only one day.

Charisse Sisou (40:01)
Mmm.

because I was literally just about to ask, you know, have you, you know, in the years that you’ve been teaching it, what’s changed? You know, what’s new and different or what have you noticed either in the curriculum or even in the students that are coming forward?

Joan Reid (40:28)
Well, in general, when I started, there were a lot of people that had farms or they weren’t as much in the metaphysical label of things. I mean, they they dowsers. They dowsed water or they dowsed for objects. Some of the veteran and elders. Over time, they started really opening up.

to the convention, the American Society of Dowsers started opening up to all kinds of other energy work. You know, the energy in colors, the energy in different places in your house, the energy in so many things that you want to make sure that you pay attention to for your highest good or for your benefit or for whatever you want to label it, for your best interest to stay healthy.

And that’s one of the things that we like to teach about, how to stay as healthy as you can, build your immune system, get rid of things that you don’t want, whether it’s from this life or another life, because I do past life healing too. You know, distance healing. I’ve had the pleasure of meeting so many wonderful people that keep in touch even after the convention. And then I can do, I do healings with some of them in different states. So I like.

Developing that part of my offerings, my business. Sounds funny to say business because it’s so much fun. Let me see, what else do we do in the convention? Well, we try to encourage people to learn to even use the dowsing to pick out what speaker to see next. What’s the best one for them to choose because we have so many wonderful people.

Charisse Sisou (42:10)
that’s…

Joan Reid (42:25)
at the convention, how do you choose? And you don’t want to miss anything. For the first few years I went, I didn’t want to miss anything.

Charisse Sisou (42:35)
that’s beautiful. Yes, yes, no, that’s perfect. That’s absolutely perfect. As we wrap up our time together, is there any last pearl of wisdom? If there’s one takeaway that people walk away with, what would you love for that to be?

Joan Reid (42:35)
I don’t know, they answer enough.

Trust yourself. You’re an amazing being and you know that your gut feelings are the first thing that you get is usually the truest. And do the best you can to not then create it into a story. You know, you get an image or you get an idea. And sometimes our fears can add layers to those first initial feelings. So when you learn how to Dows,

You also are learning more about yourself and how to stay centered and clear, more clear. And you get to know your abilities and how to use them. And learn not to be afraid of your power.

Charisse Sisou (43:41)
on that note.

Joan Reid (43:43)
because we’re all powerful beings.

We are.

Charisse Sisou (43:47)
Perfect. Thank you so much Joan. This has been such a pleasure.

Joan Reid (43:52)
Well, thank you for asking me to do this. I can’t wait to see you in a couple of days.

Charisse Sisou (43:57)
Me too.

Charisse
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