Make Your Life a Living Prayer: A Conversation with Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley & Grandfather

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (00:00)

When COVID happened, you know, we simplified our lives.

Charisse Sisou (00:04)

Yes. And focused on what was important.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (00:09)

focused on what was important. And it’s more about that, that he’s trying to impress upon us, not to be fearful, not to be worried about what’s next, because these timelines are shifting so fast, we don’t know what’s going to happen. Right. we’re still here and we are better for it.

Charisse Sisou (00:31)

I’m so excited to welcome my next guest, Rosanne Ramiglio Ashley. Not only is she my soul sister and best friend, we have collaborated in business, her graphic design to my copywriting. So a marketing agency that we run together, Marketing with Light. We’ve collaborated on books. I’ve edited several of hers and she remains a wonderful reader and guide for mine.

and in life, we, we truly are best friends. And so we’ve helped each other do everything from organize our closets to, you know, just navigate some of life’s, ups and downs, As channels and intuitives, our conversations often cover what we’re witnessing play out in our own lives and in the collective, how to stay grounded.

we help each other stay grounded, And clear amid our current amazing times. Amazing is kind of a understatement. these conversations are punctuated, I’m honored to say, by channels and downloads from our intuitive teams, right? Our guides, our ancestors, our angels. conversations we playfully call the Bellydancer and the Native.

And so with this episode, we kick off this new segment on Wise Body, Ancient Soul, bringing these conversations to you. Today, you’ll also meet a very special guest, Rosanne’s wise guide Grandfather, and ancestor Grandfather who graciously agreed to be interviewed and makes his podcast debut. I’m honored.

So I’ll let her introduce him to you. But first, a little bit about Rosanne.

Charisse Sisou (02:15)

An award winning graphic designer published author, versatile artist, and spiritual channel, Rosanne’s ancestral heritage melds Blackfoot, Wolastoqiyik, (Maliseet), and Mi’kmaq descent with French, Canadian, and Italian. She bridges cultures and artistic mediums as well as the tangible and intangible with a unique ability to tap into the unseen world.

Charisse Sisou (02:37)

You can learn more about Rosanne at FourWindsOneBreath.com.

Charisse Sisou (02:42)

Ready to have a deeper conversation about body and soul, sacred leadership and our collective evolution? Welcome to the Wise Body Ancient Soul Podcast with me, your host, Charisse Sisou.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (03:03)

So what a beautiful day we have today.

What a beautiful fall day.

Charisse Sisou (03:10)

Thank you to Grandfather for calling us into the wheel together today. And thank you to technology so that I can join you in the wheel. Do you want to say a few words about kind of how you got ready for this moment.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (03:24)

We got the call from spirit yesterday to do this. This wheel has been here a long time. It’s been here the 17 years I’ve lived here. has the prayers have been very strong in this wheel. It really holds a, holds a healing energy for humanity. Last night I was called to do a post about making ourselves a living prayer and

And really I think that’s the theme of this today, to make ourselves and our lives a living prayer. What better place to do that in the medicine wheel so that the ripple effect from this place would have a positive impact and be from a place of truth and love. I’m going to say let me play my flute and that’s another way of setting the energies for calling in.

those spirits of love and light.

you

So I’m going say, welalin ugju’snn which is thank you to the wind. The wind just joined us. I learned how to play the flute by praying in this wheel and that prayer song is mine. So I don’t usually play in public. It’s more of a private prayerful thing, but I thought it was appropriate to do this day.

And I want to just say that this is a cedar flute that my dear friend Jeff Evans made. So it’s got a special meaning to it.

Charisse Sisou (06:36)

What a beautiful way to open and set our intention for our time together. Let’s stay. What does that mean to live life as a prayer?

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (06:54)

So, for me…

It means a strong connection with the unseen world and the natural world.

The energy here after playing the flute is a sense of serenity and peace. And that is how I like to start my day. And this is from this place I can hear very clearly what spirit is calling for me to do that day. Does that make sense?

Charisse Sisou (07:38)

Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Something I’ve really learned from you is how to trust the day by day, moment by moment messages and nudges and guidance. ⁓ I think about how it actually functions in my life. Some days, you know, I ask what, is it that I am to do this day? And instead of writing my book or producing my podcast, they’ll say, go outside and pick.

black walnuts, right? That was the, that was one of the latest ones was like, and the message, the lesson right behind that was, you know, the word, what have you done with the gifts that I have given you? It’s interesting. You and I met in a, like in a business school, like a spiritually minded business school. And you know, you have goals and I just don’t even live my life like that anymore because I’m just really here to be a vessel for.

what wants to be created through me. And that’s such an important part, what you just said, which is starting out with that peaceful moment so that we can like hear the voices and the nudges.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (08:51)

What’s funny because when you were speaking, I kind of got a vision of my very first. we have a little squirrel trying to see what’s going on. But when you were saying that all I could think of is I had never been on like hot seat and they brought me up because it was my first meeting and I thought I was going to be on the hot seat for my design business. I’m all ready to talk about that. And all of a sudden all this stuff came out about.

me hearing angels since I was a child and listening to spirit. All this stuff came out of my mouth that I didn’t expect. And I was so shocked and in a way embarrassed because I’d never come out that way. After there was a hush in the room when I finished, it was like way before my first book ever came out. And I had a woman come up to me. She said, you can

you can help me with my daughter. And I’m like, what do you mean? And she’s like, she’s autistic. She can’t speak and I need to be able to communicate with her. And we kind of stepped aside a little bit. And this was like the first time this ever happened to me really, where I actually accessed information for somebody else. And I said, but you can speak to her and you do. And it was all a whole download about.

they communicated to each other telepathically. And that’s why the child came to her to teach her telepathic communication.

I had even never even heard of that before. And here it was coming out of my mouth.

Charisse Sisou (10:34)

I love that. mean, isn’t that isn’t that part of the confirmation of these intuitive hits and nudges is when they are totally unexpected, where it’s something that we didn’t know before, or even when it’s like, let’s say we’re, you know, dowsing using a pendulum and we’re getting an answer that’s like not the answer that we wanted. And that’s how you know, okay, this is like my whatever you want to call it, like that universal wisdom.

higher intelligence ancestors, my team, my guidance.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (11:08)

I remember when I first met Sandi, the president of the Dowsers Association, and I walked in, she had asked me to speak. You were there. And we had walked in bringing all this new energy in. After it was all set up, I literally walked up and said, what’s a dowser? And she laughs and looks at me and said, Rosanne, you are a natural dowser. Your intuition is your dowsing. You know things.

Some of us other people need a tool. Now I use it. I use a tool too now. It’s not like I don’t dowse but that was my first definition of a dowser way back when before we even knew anything about it, right?

Charisse Sisou (11:53)

Sure. Well, and it was the same with me where I didn’t use a pendulum at that point. I would just feel things in my body. I would have a sensation and certain sensations would mean like truth or pay attention to this. You know, maybe it was like, know you get this too a chill up your back or I’ll get like goosebumps.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (12:15)

Yeah, usually when Grandfather has something really impressive to say, I get a chill right up my back.

Charisse Sisou (12:24)

Yeah. it’s not always impressive? That’s what he wants to know.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (12:33)

Everything he says is very impressive.

I guess I should say who’s Grandfather So Grandfather is my Blackfoot grandfather. I am his seventh generation granddaughter. Before the occupation happened on the Americas, they were told that they were coming and that if they wanted their future family members to be able to come back to our native ways,

that they had to do huge prayers. He was very spiritual and connected to the unseen realms. And so he did huge prayers for me to remember our ways because there was going to be a time in between those generations where our family members would fall away from our native traditions. And that’s exactly what happened.

Charisse Sisou (13:34)

that my great great grandmother, the one who I’ve seen on the mountainside watching the Spaniards arrive to the island of Luzon ⁓ in the Philippines. She’s just seconding that because I knew that she saw the big picture when they were coming in. But basically she just said like, you don’t think that I too said many prayers?

lay the groundwork so that one day, cause she saw already that we would scatter as we have, like the, the Filipino diaspora is, is huge.

Charisse Sisou (14:11)

So would Grandfather like to join the session now?

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (14:16)

⁓ he could, hold on. Let me get my smudge going.

He’s laughing. He’s here, he says. He hasn’t left.

Charisse Sisou (14:28)

Yeah,

right. He’s been here the whole time.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (14:32)

Okay, he’s ready if you are

Charisse Sisou (14:36)

Mmm, I am.

Grandfather, there anything that you would like to say by way of introduction?

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (14:48)

He’s saying, when I walked this earth.

those seven generations ago. Life was simpler.

And we did not have all the complications that you experience now. We were connected to the earth in a way.

that goes along with the theme of a living prayer.

and every step we took.

was in communion with our surroundings in the natural world.

What I would like to say, he’s saying, is that the more you can simplify your lives, the happier you will all be.

the more you can simplify your daily tasks to allow for more time to go within and go and connect with the natural world. And that does not mean you always have to go for a walk in the woods. It could mean that

you are sitting with your pet or you’re sitting on your porch or you’re looking out a window if the weather is not ⁓ cohesive or cohesive, supportive to that endeavor.

Sometimes he says words that I don’t expect and I don’t say them right.

Charisse Sisou (16:12)

You’re You’re fine.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (16:14)

So he’s saying that a simplification would bring peace to a lot of you.

would bring peace to all of you. The simplification of how you do things and to really listen to your hearts as to what is important to you.

Charisse Sisou (16:32)

Right, that was my next question is how do you discern, what is a complication and what is the simple truth? it, can you, yeah.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (16:42)

He’s laughing, he’s laughing

and he’s saying usually the complication is other people. Yeah.

Charisse Sisou (16:49)

other people. we can relate to that. I can relate to that a lot.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (16:52)

Yeah, family

members, obligation, you know, all of that. And so it’s that people don’t take the time for themselves that they need. Even if they only took five or 10 minutes in the morning in an intentional way,

Charisse Sisou (16:57)

Yeah.

Hmm.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (17:09)

it would create a different energy and vibe for for the rest of their day, he’s saying. he’s reminding me that I often tell people that have very busy lives and are commuting and say they don’t have time. when I’m doing talks and stuff, I will say that before you even

Like you’re about to jump in your car, So if you just take a breath and focus on your feet on the ground and take a few deep breaths, connecting you to the earth before you jump into that car, even just doing that, it’s going to bring a different sense of awareness to the rest of your endeavors that day.

It’s that we are so, some of us are so busy rushing, rushing, rushing, and you and I’ve gone through these stages where that was us back when that, I don’t have time. I don’t have time, but you do have time. have two minutes before you jump in the car. You know, even if you’re going to get stuck in traffic, it would be better for you to take those few minutes of deep breathing, connecting to the earth for a minute before you jump in that car.

Charisse Sisou (17:56)

Yeah.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (18:24)

It’s going to calm you down. It’s going to be a way for you to bring some peace into your soul. And that’s how you can hear better.

Charisse Sisou (18:33)

Yeah.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (18:34)

So he’s saying that the playing of the flute that I had done earlier.

The whole reason for ceremony, the whole reason for sacredness is for us to find that peaceful calm that really is love that connects us to Creator. And in that connection, answers can come to you. They cannot come to you if you are distracted.

Charisse Sisou (19:03)

Yeah, distracted. was thinking about that because it’s, it is, it’s also our intention, like, why am I doing what I am doing? Right? And some obligations like a parent to a child, you know, there’s less optionality there, right? There’s, you know, we do need to support our family and friends. Most of us cannot go sit under a Bodhi tree and meditate, you know, 24 seven.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (19:34)

like you have a corner in your home that you can sit for a minute, like just have a place in your home somewhere where you can take a, or an altar. doesn’t even need to be that elaborate, just somewhere where you can find peace for five minutes. Maybe that’s where you read your book. Maybe it’s your favorite chair by the window.

Charisse Sisou (19:37)

I

like an altar.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (19:55)

It doesn’t have to be an altar. It doesn’t have to be all these things that we say we need. We don’t. he’s saying, think about right now, there’s a typhoon in Alaska and people are losing, lost their homes. They’re floating. They’re all having to surrender and being taken care of. And all their needs

Charisse Sisou (20:19)

Yeah.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (20:24)

will be met.

And sometimes a clean slate like that, actually, there’s a lot of sadness, obviously, of losing everything that you have. But there’s a freeing in that too.

Charisse Sisou (20:40)

It’s also a reset in that. Yeah.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (20:42)

a reset.

even I think my niece’s friend, her whole house just went up in flames. That’s also a reset. It’s a tragedy. Now, nobody was hurt. They’re all fine. That’s the blessing. But it’s also a reset.

Charisse Sisou (20:53)

Yeah.

Right. Well, and I think we’ve, we’ve all experienced and are experiencing right now, like things changing or being taken away unexpectedly. mean, in another, this is a completely different kind of a reset, but many of my clients or many of the organizations that I’m aware of with, you know,

changes in budget, changes in funding, even the government shutdown, suddenly funding that they were relying on to pay themselves, to pay their people, to keep the lights on is gone. And they’re having to really talk about get scrappy. talking, they have to start from zero and it is a reset. so it’s, it’s happening in a lot of different ways

many people translating.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (21:55)

Grandfather’s saying, he’s saying that

it is a way of turning people back to the sacred.

Charisse Sisou (22:04)

Hmm.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (22:06)

He’s kind of talking in the background. he’s saying that it’s a way of, you know, when people have to reevaluate their lives, their faith needs to be paid attention to.

and the sacred needs to come back into their lives.

And for me, he’s reminding me when I had to close my native gallery in 2008 and I had lost my entire design firm at that point with the crash. And I had a mortgage and I had a debt from the gallery and I had to close and I had no idea where the next paycheck was coming from. No clue. And if I got

Charisse Sisou (22:51)

Yeah.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (22:56)

anxious or scared or worried, I would push away any of the opportunities that were trying to come to me energetically. And in the surrender, in the surrender of like I would have a huge bill due or mortgage due or I didn’t have a husband, I was divorced, I was alone and

Charisse Sisou (23:07)

right wow

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (23:23)

all the fear of that, right? But if I was sitting in the fear, nothing would come. But if I literally surrendered to spirit and said, okay, am I about to be bankrupt? Am I about to lose my house? Am I, okay, I will whatever. And the minute I surrendered, that didn’t happen. The minute I surrendered, I’d sell a painting, I’d sell a sculpture.

Charisse Sisou (23:29)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (23:52)

something would somebody would call me out of the blue for something. And this didn’t just happen once. This happened for two years. And I never missed a payment and I never was late with a payment. Which is in and of itself a miracle.

Charisse Sisou (24:10)

Mm.

Extraordinary. I did lose my house during that reset, like that ⁓ my marriage was ending. And so I was, it really cleared the slate in a lot of ways.

I think it’s not an accident that we’re remembering that time period right now in this moment, because it feels like a very similar moment And it feels like we’re on that precipice, right?

we’re on that precipice again of a ⁓ clearing. Yeah, is, does grandfather, yeah, thank you.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (24:46)

of a something, ⁓ Grandfather said a change. There’s gonna be a change,

a shift in how we all live our lives. But it’s about perspective and simplification. In the same way that, you know, when COVID happened, you know, we simplified our lives. And

Charisse Sisou (24:57)

Yeah.

Yes.

focused on what was important.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (25:17)

We focused on what was important and it’s more about that. That he’s trying to impress upon us. Not to be fearful, not to be worried about what’s next. Because these timelines are shifting so fast. We don’t know what’s going to happen, but we’re still here and we are better for it. Years later.

Charisse Sisou (25:25)

Yeah.

Right.

Mm-hmm. ⁓

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (25:44)

Look at the spiritual

growth. He’s also saying it’s about taking responsibility and becoming spiritually mature. That it’s no longer going to serve, he’s saying it’s no longer going to serve anyone to want somebody else to take care of them. Other than the children that need that He’s saying that even our

Charisse Sisou (25:53)

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (26:09)

are older children who in his time would already be adults and having families. He’s saying that even though it’s about becoming spiritually mature.

No matter what age you are right now, you could be 80 years old, he’s saying, and not be spiritually mature. That is going to be the gift that you can give yourself from this moment forward.

Charisse Sisou (26:40)

Yeah, I would love to ask Grandfather, what does it mean to be spiritually mature, in his words.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (26:49)

taking responsibility for yourself and your circumstances and your situation and seeing how you have contributed to the creation of that and you have created that. Right? And he’s saying should no longer be in your vocabulary.

Charisse Sisou (26:52)

Mm-hmm.

I love that. love that. Yeah. Should is just not a helpful word. It’s just not a helpful word.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (27:15)

No,

he’s saying it’s about learning to, having that maturity is about learning to speak your truth, walk with integrity in all that you do.

Charisse Sisou (27:27)

Right.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (27:28)

and know that there’s no separation. So he’s reminding me years ago, before I went out west,

He’s saying that at that time when I lost the client, that was my bread and butter, right? That the excuse I was given that it wasn’t personal, that it was only business. He’s saying that dynamic is no longer valid in the times that we’re living in. That everything

Charisse Sisou (27:46)

Yeah.

love that.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (28:03)

Everything that you choose to say to another human being is personal and needs to be from a place of integrity. Because if we do not personally shift into integrity and truth in every way, and that means telling the truth, no more hiding things, no more being afraid of confrontation.

Charisse Sisou (28:08)

is personal.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (28:28)

no more, it’s about coming together, he’s saying, in a relationship, in a way that community thrives by.

interacting with each other through integrity. Are you understanding what he’s saying?

Charisse Sisou (28:43)

Yes, well, because this is I

am like I am understanding this so beautifully because the leaders that I find the most honorable are the ones who even when they’re having to shut down a factory or they need to lay off people, you know, so in contrast to the experience you had they walk

the floor, they talk to the people, they think about what is this person’s next step. Yes, it’s a business decision, but it’s also a personal decision. These are all people with families and mortgages and bills to pay. And so for me, the most admirable leaders would then, and the most successful leaders in my opinion, would then consider that. What training do you need?

you know, how can we help you with your next steps, like beyond, you know, cutting a severance check. And I find that that is the direction. That’s absolutely the direction that we need to head in. it’s, ⁓ it is, it is like, ⁓ it’s like a moving forward, but also like a going back, you know, in Filipino culture too, there’s this concept that existed before colonization.

Kapwa which is that we are all connected with each other as well as with the natural world and the unseen world. So very much like what grandfather is saying

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (30:11)

he wants to say that, in kind of coming full circle with this, that whatever you put out into the world is going to come back to you. And so to be intentional with that, you know, we are no longer children hoping not to get caught, he’s saying. That we…

we need to now operate from a place of oneness very similar to what he’s saying that you were talking about and that you know

You cannot hide your thoughts from the unseen world. And your true intentions are being seen. So one…

Charisse Sisou (31:02)

Right. Well,

even by your fellow humans,

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (31:04)

So he said his final in closing, he’s so funny, in closing.

That in closing, be impeccable. He’s like, he likes the four agreements, be impeccable with your word. Right? he’s saying the post I did last night was encouraged by him.

Charisse Sisou (31:14)

In closing.

Yeah.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (31:34)

Make your life a living prayer.

Charisse Sisou (31:37)

Make your life a living prayer of beauty, alignment, and soul truth. It starts with intention.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (31:47)

Mm-hmm. Yes, Everybody is here for a separate reason. Everybody on this planet, he is saying, is not here accidentally. They have a gift to share. And they can choose not to, they have free will. But do not think that somebody else can step in and do your part. This is also part of the maturity.

that it’s time to full responsibility. And your guides and your angels need you to ask them for their help. It’s a free will choice. They cannot just come and descend upon you and give you the answers without you asking first. You live in a free will world, free will zone. And they are there. None of you are alone.

Charisse Sisou (32:13)

Take full responsibility.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (32:42)

They are there. So if you take the time in the morning, if you take the time to find that sacred space for you, for yourself, even it’s only a few minutes, the more time you invest in creating that spiritual connection, the more answers you will be able to hear and receive to help

you in the walk of your lives is what he’s saying.

Charisse Sisou (33:20)

Aho, beautiful.

Rosanne Romiglio-Ashley (33:22)

So I’m going to say Emset Nogekmaq, aho, Mitakuye Oyasin, Niiksokowa

And that’s basically all my relations in almost all my languages.

Charisse Sisou (33:35)

Hahaha!

Thank you.

Charisse Sisou (33:42)

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